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Will we supply gold CIF?

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We are   looking for serious Sellers of listed below products with following terms;

  • 50-100kg of Gold  per week with delivery CIF Warsaw-Poland,
  • Copper cathode CIF Hamburg-Germany in the amount of 22MT to 100MT per month
  • Diamonds CIF delivered to Zurich-Switzerland

Please note that we are interested only in CIF offers, without any preliminary payments or prepayment fees. Serious and determined entrepreneurs are welcome to cooperate.

Answer

We do not supply gold to third parties, but if we did it would never be CIF.

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Why?

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No one is going to send you gold “CIF”.

CIF is an Incoterm term – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incoterms – referring to sea transportation by ship, which is always secured through a bank instrument, usually a letter of credit, and including the presentation of the official documents (bill of lading, commercial invoice, insurance document plus certification of product and certification of origin) which the buyer has to pay for.

The correct term you for the method you are looking for would be “free assayer/refinery” or “free tax free warehouse” or “free airport” plus “payment after assay”.  NO ONE that mines gold would ever just “CIF” gold anywhere unless the person receiving it was somehow involved in the mining of it… or unless they pre-paid / sponsored the mining operation, or unless you are a well known refinery – and refineries are not hard to find. http://www.lbma.org.uk/good-delivery-list-recent-additions

Real buyers of raw gold arrange meetings with the sellers; check the goods, get the gold into a security warehouse (and possibly check again) and then pay.

Furthermore it takes millions of dollars in equipment to mine millions of dollars in gold and only a publicly traded company has the ability to mine such a volume of gold and a publicly traded company would never sell gold to a third party – they would only sell directly to a refinery … which again are not hard to find – http://www.lbma.org.uk/good-delivery-list-recent-additions

You are wasting your time chasing your tail with such a request. NO One has that much “extra gold”, only well funded publicly traded companies that own millions of dollars in equipment can produce that much gold per month, and finally NO ONE is going to send you gold via the method you THINK you understand.

 

Incoming search terms:

We can supply 10 kg gold dore bars weekly CIF

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Could you supply gold bars as 10kg every week to my buyer? its grade its 20carats, 94% to 96% , please issue quotation include CIF at the international Air Port of Cambodia. Please send to me COO, POP, SKR, take photograph gold and you stand with gold in your warehouse.

Answer

We do not supply gold to third parties. There are many reason, but the simplest one is that anyone with gold in Ghana can sell it for just a few percent below the world market price – all day every day.

Think about it like this, if there is enough infrastructure in a county to be able to provide POP or SKRs and ship the gold CIF to you or your “buyer”… then it could just as easily be shipped directly to any LBMA refinery on earth thus avoiding two middle men – you and your buyer.

POP and SKR documents are simply broker documents and no bank  from Africa issues such documents. 99.9% of all such documents anyone would show you will be fake. Precious metals, unlike many other commodities,  are not stored in wait of buyers. Precious metals supplies are not available like sugar, wheat, cement, or other commodities because there is NEVER an extra supply of gold “waiting for a buyer”.

No one that has gold needs help selling it, so you will never find a situation where there is a seller that will pay you a commission to find a buyer. Gold is the most liquid substance on earth and gold can be traded for cash in just about every city in the world including Africa.

 

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Gold bar, dust, the quality, quantity, procedure, and price

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Please send me the information about gold bar, dust, the quality, quantity,  procedure, price (CIF/FOB) and commission.

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We do not sell gold to third parties. No one that works in the gold trade in Ghana who actually has gold, needs any help selling it – therefore there are no broker commissions ever paid. In Ghana there are gold buying offices in every large city such as Accra and Kumasi as well as every other smaller city such as Bibiani, Obuasi, Dunkwa, Tarkwa, Bogoso and every city in between.

It is ILLEGAL to sell gold dust in Ghana, so don’t ever be fooled into attempting to buy gold dust. 100% of all gold dust “sellers” are fake. They use many methods to part you from your money and leave you empty handed.

No one will ever offer you gold CIF. Anyone offering gold CIF should also be considered a scammer. Anyone that has gold can trade some for cash and ship it anywhere in the world. Gold miners demand top dollar, as anyone that has the money and ability to mine gold would…. If it was you would you sell your gold at a discount? No you wouldn’t.

We found all this out by actually traveling to Ghana in an attempt to buy gold a few years ago. I wish you the best of luck… but if you are trying to find gold “sellers” to work with as a broker and make a commission, you will only find scammers.

Gold Dore supply to Ghana Gold Refineries

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Do I understand correctly if I say that you supply gold dore to refineries out of Ghana?

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There are many small scale mining companies that sell their production to the buying companies in the cities we work in on a daily or weekly basis. They are not “refineries”, they are actually gold buyers with legal offices set up in every city in Ghana where gold is found.

If you are going to ask if we can supply gold to you, the answer is we don’t supply gold to third parties – and the reasons are many. When the need arises to trade gold production for cash, it is to pay for expenses such as fuel or labor. This need is immediate and the local buyers have cash available and their offices and they are open every day. The going price the local buyers pay is 2-5% below the world market price every day all day.

Not only that, but the only place to ship gold out of Ghana is Accra, which is a minimum of 6 hour drive from the main gold bearing locations where we work. It simply is not worth the effort.

Procedures you work with regarding selling gold

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Hope all is great with you .
I would like to know what type of procedures you work with regarding selling AU. I’m direct to a refinery mandate that is looking for product .
Thank you

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Thank you for your inquiry. No offense, but we do not sell gold to third parties through brokers. Thankfully we don’t have to as there are dozens of buyers in Ghana with convenient gold buying office locations in every city where gold is found.

If we desired to send gold to a refinery, we can do so at any time – and so can anyone else that has gold / mines gold. We simply do not because there is no need. Cash buyers with office locations are everywhere in Ghana!

Would you or anyone ship gold to us based upon our BG

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Under what condition, if we get to that point, would you or anyone ship gold to based upon our BG?
What are your terms and conditions?

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We do not sell gold to third parties nor accept instruments as viable trade mechanisms…. and neither does anyone else for that matter.

We definitely don’t know everything, but from our experience and from our research no one ships gold to third parties based upon instruments such as Bank Guarantees (BG). African banks do not accept them, so that is as far as our personal experience goes.

From a practical standpoint, there are dozens of accredited gold refineries all over the world. If we didn’t have one near us, we would be looking to ship directly to a refinery and get top dollar. No one needs / uses third parties when it comes to gold. Why?

Gold is money and one only trades gold for currency when they need cash to further their mining efforts. The daily world value of gold is no secret, and even the smallest boy in the most distant village knows the world market price of gold today. Just like when someone trades one currency for another there is always a small fee associated with the transaction, not some kind of disproportionate discount.

Everyone somehow imagines that distant countries don’t have access to the world market and the fact is if someone can ship gold to you, they can ship it anywhere on earth…. so why ship it to you?